Prof. Patricia Casey and “Antidepressants for bedwetting”.

Professor Patricia Casey…Antidepressants are a standard treatment for bedwetting in children.

In the High Court 2002, CHRISTOPHER KNOWLES v THE MINISTER FOR DEFENCE, IRELAND AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, Professor Patricia Casey gave evidence that antidepressants are a standard treatment for bedwetting in children, here.

Considering the extremely dangerous side-effects that can come with these drugs, do the benefits still outweigh the risks? All antidepressants come with a black-box warning in the U.S. because of the suicide risks associated with this medication. Can it really be the case in Ireland that these dangerous drugs are still being prescribed for bedwetting in children who probably haven’t yet been taught the words “suicide ideation”?

Can being dead possibly be better than wetting the bed? I wondered whether this was the opinion of the Irish College of Psychiatry collectively or just the opinion of Prof. Casey so I sent the college an e-mail yesterday. I had thought about e-mailing Prof. Casey and asking her directly but I would probably get the same treatment as John Mc’Carty of Mad Pride who also disagrees with her on a few issues. She was quoted on the 4th Oct, in UCD’s student paper “The University Observer” speaking of Mad Pride, she said I think the best thing is to ignore them. It will be interesting to see if I get a reply….

07/10/2011                                                                                                                                                                     
To whom it concerns,
My name is Leonie Fennell and my son’s name was Shane Clancy. He killed himself and another young man on 16th Aug 09.
As you are no doubt aware, I blame this tragedy on the antidepressants he was taking. I am fully aware that you totally disagree with my stance and despite the fact that the drug companies themselves have warnings of suicide and violence on their PILs, you are still prepared to stick to your archaic denials.
Anyway that is not the reason I am e-mailing as I’m sure this will come up again in the future, so I will leave that issue for another day.
My query concerns your stance on antidepressants and bedwetting.
In the High Court 2002, CHRISTOPHER KNOWLES v THE MINISTER FOR DEFENCE, IRELAND AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, Professor P. Casey gave evidence that antidepressants are a standard treatment for bedwetting in children. I was wondering if, considering that you seem to be unaware or possibly ignoring the mounting evidence of the serious side-effects that these drugs can have, is this the opinion of the College of Psychiatry of Ireland or just the opinion of Prof. Casey as a lone member?
 
Yours Sincerely,
Leonie Fennell

5 thoughts on “Prof. Patricia Casey and “Antidepressants for bedwetting”.

  1. Loving your letter Leonie.

    I’m baffled that Casey would claim that antidepressants are a ‘standard treatment’ for bedwetting, particularly when antidepressants have not been licensed for children. Maybe she believes the medicine regulators have got it all wrong or thinks the black box warnings in the US are just pretty designer packaging?

    If anything, SSRi’s can cause bed-wetting. You are so comatosed when you are on them that you can’t wake up and tend to take a trip to the toilet in your sleep.

    Would love to see the evidence that antidepressants actually deter one from pissing oneself – I just pissed myself at Casey’s evidence!

    No doubt her solicitors will be in touch with you

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  2. you are still prepared to stick to your archaic denials.

    The key word here is “archaic”. The Irish College of Psychiatry is about 10 years behind the times when it comes to antidepressants. Most academics acknowledge the risk of antidepressants and suicide since the black box warnings came out in 2004.

    Cymbalta (a cousin of Prozac) an antidepressant which has the chemical name duloxetine, is also sold for “stress urinary incontinence” in Europe and the UK under the trade name Yentreve. On Feb. 7, 2004, 19-year-old student, Traci Johnson, a healthy volunteer in the clinical trial for duloxetine, hung herself from a shower rod in the laboratories of pharmaceuticals giant Eli Lilly. Previously, four patients also committed suicide while enrolled in clinical trials of Cymbalta.

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  3. No I hadn’t Mary, but her name came up in this today…http://www.hrb.ie/uploads/media/Youth_Mental_Health_research_day_programme.pdf

    She was among the participants along with Patrick McGorry who is renowned for his early intervention programme (get them in young and medicate). Kathleen Lynch, our own Minister for Mental Health was also there.

    I wonder did he speak to Kathleen about his Seroquel drug trial that was scrapped because it was deemed to be unethical? Is he trying to do the same thing here because Australia are having none of it? Message for Patrick McGorry…If you’re looking for guinea pigs for your drug trials…go to the pet shop, not our schools and leave our children alone!

    His aborted controversial drug trial…
    “The Sunday Age can reveal 13 local and international experts lodged a formal complaint calling for the trial not to go ahead due to concerns children who had not yet been diagnosed with a psychotic illness would be unnecessarily given drugs with potentially dangerous side effects.

    Quetiapine, sold as Seroquel, has been linked to weight gain and its manufacturer AstraZeneca, which was to fund the trial, last month paid $US647 million ($A623 million) to settle a lawsuit in the US, alleging there was insufficient warning the drug may cause diabetes.”

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/drug-trial-scrapped-amid-outcry-20110820-1j3vy.html#ixzz1aqB0nHcw

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    1. ‘Message for Patrick McGorry…If you’re looking for guinea pigs for your drug trials…go to the pet shop, not our schools and leave our children alone!’

      You should send that as a letter to the Irish Times!

      What’s really disturbing about those so called interviews is the way that the children were coaxed with what she calls ‘soft’ questions. Does this woman know nothing about child development or adolescents or how suggestible they are? They seem to be preying on the vulnerability of unformed minds by suggesting that if they ever feel sad that they might want to kill themselves. What adolescent hasn’t flounced out of a room saying I wish I were dead over some trivial matter only to be fine ten minutes later? How this can be used as a diagnosis for mental health problems is beyond me.

      I think you’re right though, she doesn’t mention it specifically but I suspect that underpinning the ‘early treatment’ model that she is proposing is medication. This is just another devious backdoor way for the drugs companies to get access to a new untapped market.

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