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The 3 musketeers? Lundbeck, the Irish College of Psychiatry and the Irish Medical Council.

The 3 MusketeersAll for one and one for all?

Now I know a lot of you may think I’m a little delusional or at the very least a slightly emotional, conspiracy theorist. Some of you may think (or not) that that’s understandable, albeit a tad hard to believe. Some may just think that I’m not the full shilling, I understand that and accept it. Either way, bear with me if you will.

I have made no secret of the fact that I thought Professor Patricia Casey and the Irish College of Psychiatry’s involvement in Shane’s inquest was, how do I put this; a little strange! I also made no secret that I found it ‘strange’ that the Irish College of Psychiatry would choose to send someone with a long history of working for lundbeck (the drug company who invented Citalopram), to my son’s inquest. Considering Citalopram is the drug I blame for Shane’s death, I wondered whether she was representing psychiatry Ireland or lundbeck that day?

Still bearing with me?

In 2010 I sent off a ‘Freedom Of Information’ request to Lundbeck which I happened to be going through this week. Most of it was newspaper clippings from the various media outlets in Ireland and a few e-mails with a lot of redaction. I came across one e-mail which I had somehow missed before. It’s an internal e-mail to members of the Irish College of Psychiatry, from the College President Justin Brophy, referring to their decision not to address the antidepressant ‘issue’ raised by the ‘Shane Clancy Affair’.

Well here’s the conspiracy theorist bit;

Why did Lundbeck have access to private ‘internal’ e-mails sent by Justin Brophy to members of the Irish College of Psychiatrists? Who forwarded this ‘internal’ e-mail to a pharmaceutical company implicated in my son’s death? There’s quite a few members of Irish Psychiatry who have financial ties to Lundbeck; does that surprise you? Me a conspiracy theorist?

The Irish Medical Council is a public body set up by statute. Section 38 of the ‘Medical Practitioners Act’ 1978, provides:“The Council shall from time to time determine, in relation to each specialty recognised by it, the body or bodies which the Council shall recognise in the State for the purpose of granting evidence of satisfactory completion of specialist training.”The Medical Council currently approves the Irish College of Psychiatry for the purpose of granting ‘evidence of satisfactory completion’ of psychiatric training. In August 2010, we made a complaint to the Irish Medical Council regarding the care, or lack thereof, that Shane received in his last few weeks. Similarly, the Medical Council also asked an expert with financial ties to Lundbeck (PJ Cowen), to compile an expert ‘independent’ report on my son’s case. So is it possible that the dubious relationship between Lundbeck and the Irish College of psychiatry, if not addressed, could lead the Medical Council, as a public body, open to a ‘perception of bias’? Or maybe it’s just a case of the old boy’s network, and the families of the victims are never invited? Well, you’ll have to make up your own mind, mine’s firmly made up!

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The College of Psychiatry of Ireland; Protecting patient’s interests?

The lawyers acting for Staff Sgt Robert Bales who allegedly massacred 17 Afghans, are currently looking at whether the Prescribed drugs he was taking were to blame. An article in today’s Telegraph states Prescribed drugs ‘to blame over spate of violence among US soldiers’ Link. Bart Billings, a former military psychologist and combat stress expert, told the Los Angeles Times “We have never medicated our troops to the extent we are doing now … And I don’t believe the current increase in suicides and homicides in the military is a coincidence,”

It is widely recognised, see Shane’s report, that Akathisia, brought on by prescription drugs, is the condition which can cause a drug induced suicide and/or homicide.

The body entrusted with the knowledge, including side-effects, of these drugs in Ireland is The College of Psychiatry of Ireland. I have written before about their “failure to warn” and active denials that these drugs can cause suicide and violence, despite the drug companies and the medicines regulators having to do so. Here’s what their website has to say about akathisia and antidepressants, which include a lot of ‘may be’s’ and theories;

What is antidepressant medication?

The manner in which antidepressants help to restore normal mood isn’t known for definite, but it is probably related to their effect on regulating the activity of brain chemicals called neurotransmitters. These are chemical messengers that help brain cells communicate and pass signals to each other. The chemicals most involved in depression are serotonin and noradrenaline and antidepressant medications influence their activity. There are other theories to explain the effectiveness of antidepressants in depression, such as their effect on the inflammatory and immune system and on their potential to promote nerve cell growth or (‘neurogenesis’) in certain brain areas. It may be through a combination of these effects that they are helpful in depression.

Then you are re-directed to a UK website, where it states, as usual, that it’s your illness that can cause the problem;

Depression and other psychiatric illnesses are associated with an increased risk of suicidal thoughts, self-harm, and suicide. You should be aware that this medicine may not start to make you feel better for at least two to four weeks.  (This seems at odds with Prof. Casey’s statement, at a 2003 Lundbeck seminar who stated that these drugs work WITHIN DAYS.) However, it is important that you keep taking it in order for it to work properly and for you to feel better. If you feel your depression or anxiety has got worse, or if you have any distressing thoughts, or feelings about suicide or harming yourself in these first few weeks, or  indeed at any point during treatment or after stopping treatment, then it is very important to talk to your doctor. (No mention that it could be the drug causing these feelings and of course the patient will still be waiting for the anti-depressant effect to kick in).

Now here’s the big problem, the section dealing with akathisia;

SSRI antidepressants have been associated with the development of unpleasant or distressing restlessness and the need to move, often accompanied by an inability to sit or stand still. This is most likely to occur within the first few weeks of treatment. If you experience these symptoms you should consult your doctor. (No mention of the serious side-effects that akathisia can cause, just consult your doctor).

Shame on the Irish College of Psychiatry.


Here’s some other light-hearted reading concerning this issue:

cipramil (celexa) stories,, Newspaper and internet articles, psychiatry

Will Ireland bring change?

What was that you said???

This is a picture of the lovely Dr Corry who testified about the dangerous side-effects of SSRI’s to the Irish Government in 2006. Link. We met him shortly after Shane died when he said in the papers that he would stake his career on the fact that Shane “would not have done what he did if he wasn’t on anti-depressants.” It turned out his career was at stake when Timothy Dinan, a member of the Irish College of Psychiatry made a complaint to the Medical Council about Dr Corry’s comments. Dr Corry said the same thing again on RTE a few weeks later and this time another member of the college made a complaint against RTE to the Broadcasting Association of Ireland. They really don’t like to be contradicted do they? Is it any wonder that medical professionals are afraid to speak out. Dr Corry died on 22.02.2010.

Something is happening here in Ireland with a growing number of brave doctors, psychiatrists, and medical professionals willing to speak out. An increasing number are raising their concerns about the use of mind-altering SSRI’s. hallelujah! For years the Irish College of Psychiatry have denied that Antidepressants can cause suicide and violence. They have been allowed to deny the devastating side-effects of these drugs, undisputed, for far too long. I won’t go into my opinion on their level of ignorance, I’ve said it already. Denying the side-effects of these drugs, prescribing them for complaints from bed-wetting to broken hearts and getting paid handsomely by the same pharmaceutical companies who make these drugs, is in my opinion an unforgivable disgrace; especially when even the drug companies have to admit that the drugs can cause, inter alia, both suicide and violence.

Now here’s another name to add to the list, Ita McSwiney, a psychotherapist who has worked as a nurse in adult mental health services for over 30 years. This week in the ‘Irish Examiner’ she spoke out and said she wanted to add her name to the growing number of people concerned about the  side-effects of SSRI’s. Here she tells of her patients experiences of the side-effects:

“From my experience of my work, I have no doubt that a significant number of people, particularly in the early treatment phase with antidepressants, experience bizarre, and often uncharacteristic thoughts, impulses and images  that can be both terrifying and  difficult to ignore. Examples disclosed to me in the course of my work that come to mind include:

(i) A sudden urge to drive across oncoming traffic at speed;
(ii) An impulse to drive their vehicle at speed over unprotected quays, into a wall or over a cliff;
(iii) An urge to physically harm themselves or attack a loved one;
(iv) On  one occasion a patient expressed the urge to physically attack me, having  spotted a potential weapon near to hand.”

What was that you said??? No evidence? Full Article Here.

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Prof. Patricia Casey and “Antidepressants for bedwetting”.

Professor Patricia Casey…Antidepressants are a standard treatment for bedwetting in children.

In the High Court 2002, CHRISTOPHER KNOWLES v THE MINISTER FOR DEFENCE, IRELAND AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, Professor Patricia Casey gave evidence that antidepressants are a standard treatment for bedwetting in children, here.

Considering the extremely dangerous side-effects that can come with these drugs, do the benefits still outweigh the risks? All antidepressants come with a black-box warning in the U.S. because of the suicide risks associated with this medication. Can it really be the case in Ireland that these dangerous drugs are still being prescribed for bedwetting in children who probably haven’t yet been taught the words “suicide ideation”?

Can being dead possibly be better than wetting the bed? I wondered whether this was the opinion of the Irish College of Psychiatry collectively or just the opinion of Prof. Casey so I sent the college an e-mail yesterday. I had thought about e-mailing Prof. Casey and asking her directly but I would probably get the same treatment as John Mc’Carty of Mad Pride who also disagrees with her on a few issues. She was quoted on the 4th Oct, in UCD’s student paper “The University Observer” speaking of Mad Pride, she said I think the best thing is to ignore them. It will be interesting to see if I get a reply….

To whom it concerns,
My name is Leonie Fennell and my son’s name was Shane Clancy. He killed himself and another young man on 16th Aug 09.
As you are no doubt aware, I blame this tragedy on the antidepressants he was taking. I am fully aware that you totally disagree with my stance and despite the fact that the drug companies themselves have warnings of suicide and violence on their PILs, you are still prepared to stick to your archaic denials.
Anyway that is not the reason I am e-mailing as I’m sure this will come up again in the future, so I will leave that issue for another day.
My query concerns your stance on antidepressants and bedwetting.
In the High Court 2002, CHRISTOPHER KNOWLES v THE MINISTER FOR DEFENCE, IRELAND AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, Professor P. Casey gave evidence that antidepressants are a standard treatment for bedwetting in children. I was wondering if, considering that you seem to be unaware or possibly ignoring the mounting evidence of the serious side-effects that these drugs can have, is this the opinion of the College of Psychiatry of Ireland or just the opinion of Prof. Casey as a lone member?
Yours Sincerely,
Leonie Fennell